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2012 ELECTIONS:
Candidates grilled in final TV debate
ROUND THREE: Ma, Tsai and Soong took questions
from civic groups and promised to reform health insurance, phase out nuclear
power and mitigate income disparities
By Shih Hsiu-chuan and Loa Iok-sin / Staff Reporters
Visitors to Democratic
Progressive Party presidential candidate Tsai Ing-wen’s national election
campaign headquarters in Banciao, New Taipei City, watch the final televised
debate between the three presidential candidates yesterday.
Photo: Wang Min-wei, Taipei Times
Civic representatives yesterday questioned
the three presidential candidates in the televised debate about issues ranging
from environmental protection, judicial reform, inequitable income distribution
and human rights to the welfare of women and children, education and exorbitant
housing prices.
Taiwan Healthcare Reform Foundation deputy director Liu Fu-mei (劉芙媺) asked the
candidates to propose solutions to reform the National Health Insurance (NHI)
program to make its premium contributions more fair and make it more
sustainable.
People First Party Chairman James Soong (宋楚瑜) blamed both the Chinese
Nationalist Party (KMT) and the Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) for the
debt-ridden NHI system because outstanding debts were incurred by Ma during his
stint as Taipei mayor and by the DPP-led Kaohsiung City Government, a problem
that he said never happened when he served as governor of Taiwan Province.
The health insurance system faces not only financial problems, but also
healthcare quality issues, he said, adding that his administration would not
just be a bookkeeper for the NHI system, but would carry out reforms under his
personal supervision to safeguard the public’s health under the system.
Ma said he would continue to push reforms of the NHI system that began early
this year.
Tsai said the Ma government’s revised program treated the symptoms, but not the
root cause of the NHI’s problems because it failed to calculate premiums based
on total income per household, adding that she would set up a research agency
independent of the government to conduct studies of the NHI system regularly to
continuously reform the health plan so that it could adapt to changes in society
and the needs of the people.
Consumers’ Foundation chairwoman Joann Su (蘇錦霞) asked the candidates to propose
policies to tackle commodity price hikes.
Ma said his administration would continue to adopt policies to address the
problem, including imposing a fine on increases in the prices of commodities not
in line with market rules, reducing import tariffs on materials, creating jobs
to boost salaries and expanding subsidies and social programs.
Tsai said the government must act to buffer the effects of the rise in global
commodity prices on importers and keep public utility rates in check to prevent
improper increases that could lead to an out-of-control inflationary spiral,
adding that the government should also demand that businesses lower prices if
the hikes are caused by non-market factors, rather than just levying fines.
Soong highlighted the importance of the government taking precautions to tackle
the problem by setting up mechanisms to predict possible price hikes, providing
resources to medium and low-income families, and adopting measures to address
imbalances in supply and demand.
Asked by Taiwan Association for Human Rights deputy president Lai Chung-chiang
(賴中強) about her views on a national human rights commission and on the
much-criticized Assembly and Parade Act (集會遊行法) to protect people’s right to
protest, Tsai said she fully supported the idea of such a commission, adding it
should be independent of the government to monitor government policies, produce
national human rights reports and investigate possible infringements of human
rights.
Ma said he was satisfied with the work of the Human Rights Commission under the
Presidential Office.
Regarding the Assembly and Parade Act, Tsai said she would abolish the system
that requires police permission to hold demonstrations and limit the powers
given to the police to break up rallies, while Soong said he favored a
registration system over the current permit system.
Ma, saying he has proposed replacing the permit system with registration in an
amendment to the act pending legislative review, accused the DPP of stalling the
amendment.
Yang Ju-men (楊儒門), a farmer activist and organizer of the 248 Farmers’ Market,
expressed anger over the recent passage of the Land Expropriation Act (土地徵收條例)
in the legislature, saying the government failed to ensure that land seizures
are conducted according to the principles of fairness and justice.
Yang asked their views on turning the two parking lots in front of the
Presidential Office into farmland to grow organic crops, saying the change can
bring people close to farming and the land and that the crops could be served in
lunches provided to children to teach them to enjoy locally grown foods.
Soong and Tsai both agreed with Yang on his criticism on the Land Expropriation
Act, but Ma avoided questions on the act that was pushed through by the KMT
caucus.
While Soong disagreed with the idea of growing crops on the Presidential Office
parking lots, he said he would push for comprehensive reform to take care of
disadvantaged farmers.
Ma said it was an “innovative idea” to convert the parking plots into farmland
and said he would assess its feasibility.
In response to Taiwan Environment Protection Union chairman Wang Chun-hsiu
(王俊秀), who said Ma had violated Article 23 of the Environment Basic Act (環境基本法)
by continuing the construction of the Fourth Nuclear Power Plant, Ma reiterated
his plan to reduce the use of nuclear energy, while Tsai said her energy plan
was to increase the percentage of energy provided by alternative energy sources
by 1 percent per year to gradually turn Taiwan from a country heavily reliant on
energy imports to an energy-independent state.
Answering a question from Judicial Reform Foundation executive director Lin
Feng-jeng (林峰正), Ma said it was inappropriate that some retired grand justices
voiced support for his re-election and said he would not let that happen again.
Tsai emphasized the importance of promoting the concept of human rights to the
judiciary because of insufficient protection of human rights in the judicial
system.
Answering a question from Alliance for a Fair Tax Reform spokesman Wang Jung-chang
(王榮璋) about the widening income disparity, both Tsai and Soong said they
believed the situation could be improved through tax reforms to impose more
taxes on the wealthy. Soong said that injustice in taxation is something that
most people complain about.
“I’ll call a nationwide financial and taxation meeting once elected, because
this is a national security issue,” Soong said.
Tsai echoed Soong’s remarks, and added that, besides imposing taxes on capital
gains and security transactions, taxes on selling non-owner-occupied properties
should also be increased.
While admitting that the wealth gap was an issue, Ma said the gap became smaller
last year and that Taiwan was the country with the smallest wealth gap.
While Taiwan Labour Front Vice-Chairwoman Liao Hui-fang (廖蕙芳) criticized the
phenomenon of increasing numbers of seasonal jobs and temporary workers, which
provides little protection to workers’ rights, Ma said his administration has
paid attention to temporary workers, and would like to protect their rights
through legislation, such as limiting the number [of temporary workers in a
company], “but it’s not easy to eliminate the phenomenon.”
“Maybe the manufacturing and service industries could give their employees more
year-end bonuses as the New Year is approaching. That’s something that’s easier
to do,” he added.
Tsai, answering the question after Ma, criticized his attitude.
“Apparently President Ma only has a superficial understanding of the issue, and
does not see what’s at the core of labor poverty,” she said. “Without reforms in
industries in the country, salary adjustments have been halted, non-traditional
employment has increased, wages for temporary workers have gone down and the
number of full-time openings has dropped, especially when government-funded
businesses are taking the lead in hiring non-conventional workers.”
On the social housing issue, Tsai said that once elected, she would launch
government-run urban renewal projects and reserve a certain number of housing
units for disadvantaged groups.
“Our long-term goal is to have 800,000 — or 10 percent — of the housing units in
the country as social housing,” she said. “And social housing units would not be
located in remote areas. Rather, they would be right in the cities, with
convenient means of transportation.”
Soong promised to build social housing projects on public lands.
“And before building social housing, I’ll build transportation networks around
them and increase public facilities to make them convenient places to live,” he
said.
Ma said that under his administration, the Legislative Yuan had adopted housing
legislation.
“It may not be perfect, but at least it’s a historic step and it’s a beginning,”
Ma said. “What did the DPP do? It did nothing.”
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