SERVICES PACT:
INTERVIEW: ¡¥True blue¡¦ Liu says the nation¡¦s biggest problem is Ma
In an interview with the ¡¥Liberty Times¡¦ (the sister
newspaper of the ¡¥Taipei Times¡¦), retired lieutenant general James Liu told
reporter Tzou Jiing-wen that Taiwanese may be able to accept unfavorable
government policies and shrinking incomes, but if cross-strait affairs are not
handled properly, Taiwanese would not be able to make a living anymore, and the
main problem with the nation¡¦s governance lies with President Ma Ying-jeou
Retired lieutenant general James
Liu gestures during an interview with the Taipei Times¡¦ sister paper, the
Liberty Times, on Thursday.
Photo: Liu Hsin-de, Taipei Times
Liberty Times (LT): The government¡¦s
failure to communicate with the tertiary [service] sector before signing the
cross-strait service trade agreement has caused a great deal of discontent among
affected industries. In your opinion, what are the main problems with the
government?
James Liu (¼B´ðÀØ): I want to start with a core problem. For a very long
time, President Ma Ying-jeou (°¨^¤E) has been severely criticized over many
issues, but no matter the criticism, Ma always replies with: ¡§Thanks for the
suggestions.¡¨ However, Ma¡¦s response of ¡§unacceptable¡¨ to [former speaker of the
defunct Taiwan Provincial Assembly] Kao Yu-jen¡¦s (°ª¨|¤¯) criticism of him as being
¡§selfish¡¨ departed from his stock response. Why? Because, in a nutshell, Kao¡¦s
criticism hit the bullseye.
Whether it is cross-strait or domestic policies, the crux of the problem comes
down to Ma¡¦s selfishness. It is due to his selfishness that the nation has
become what it is today.
[The incident involving] Presidential Office spokesperson Lee Chia-fei (§õ¨ÎÀP) is
a very good example. [Lee passed a note reminding Ma that the media were filming
him dozing off while presiding over a flood-prevention meeting on May 20. Lee¡¦s
casual signature on the note prompted accusations of a lack of workplace
professionalism.] What¡¦s the relationship between Lee and Ma? Is it a business
relationship or is it more personal? That Lee would write such a note to Ma in
such a public setting suggests the interaction between Lee and Ma is more
personal than a pure business relationship.
From this incident we can boldly presume Ma is surrounded by people with whom he
shares no business relationship. This means their interactions are purely on a
personal and private level, and as long as they are able to maintain a good
private relationship, it really doesn¡¦t matter whether they are successful in
actual governmental affairs.
There¡¦s a reason why everyone calls the Ma administration the ¡§Ma clique.¡¨ The
usual sort he keeps around him are promoted not because of their professional
capabilities. Under such circumstances, Ma becomes the core of the group and
everyone listens to him.
By using only people he knows or likes, the Ma administration has no unified
national strategy, no core concept to help them guide the nation. In short, they
do not have the capability to govern the nation.
Regarding the cross-strait service trade agreement, everyone asks why the Ma
administration didn¡¦t ask the tertiary sector for their opinions.
First off, Ma now feels nothing for the people; he never has unless there¡¦s an
election ongoing. As the leader of the nation, if he doesn¡¦t make the needs of
the public a priority, it¡¦s going to cause a lot of problems.
Second, and this is the bigger problem, he¡¦s too proud. This can be seen from
one of his most oft-quoted phrases: ¡§I have an administration that has the most,
and the best, doctorates.¡¨
It gives a sense that he is in charge of a team of highly educated individuals,
so how can he be wrong? Why should he be asking you [the public] questions on
how to run the government?
LT: Now that the contents of the service trade agreement are public, what are
your thoughts on it?
Liu: The terms of the agreement severely impact Taiwan. On the surface,
it might seem like we hold the upper hand ¡X China agreed to open up 80 sectors
while we ¡§only¡¨ opened up 64. However, in truth, all 64 items that we have
opened up to China will go down in flames because the government has no systemic
measures to keep them safe.
The government proudly points to the fact that China opened up its markets to
Taiwanese construction firms, but I would like to posit the question: Which
Taiwanese construction firm is going to set up in China?
Comparing local and Chinese construction needs, the scale is out of proportion.
Chinese firms have the home-field advantage in terms of manpower and territory,
so what advantages would Taiwanese construction firms have in China?
This is yet another point proving why many people in Taiwan say that Ma¡¦s
policies are audible, but invisible.
The same principles apply to financial institutions. We constantly pat ourselves
on the back claiming advanced management skills and innovative concepts, but the
fact is that within a period of half a year, Chinese workers have learned
everything from us, and will soon drive us off with businesses of their own.
Ever wonder why there aren¡¦t that many Taiwanese in the higher eschelons of the
finance sector in China?
It seems that the government has not taken that lesson to heart, despite having
so many Taiwanese companies and Taiwanese businesspeople working in China for
many years.
The Ma administration doesn¡¦t understand the corporate sector. They negotiate
with the Chinese, but they only focus on the needs of specific corporations,
corporations with ties to them, because they are selfish. They make sure these
organizations make money because it benefits them as well.
Selfishness has caused Ma to focus on how history will remember him, instead of
whether his actions are helpful to the nation. He is counting how many
agreements and accords have been signed to soften the deadlock across the
Strait; he is concerned with numbers.
All 18 previous cross-strait agreements and accords are only frameworks, and
have no effect, but Ma doesn¡¦t care; and if the 19th actually harms Taiwan? He
still doesn¡¦t care.
No industry in Taiwan can stand up to the magnitude of such level of
liberalization, and it is up to the Legislative Yuan to attempt to stem the
tide. If it fails, then we have the makings of some very serious problems.
LT: Although the Straits Exchange Foundation and the Association for
Relations Across the Taiwan Straits agreed to move the issue of establishing
representative offices on either side of the Strait to a future meeting, it does
not assuage concerns on visitation rights or national sovereignty. The public is
confused as to why the Ma administration is rushing the issue; do you think it
is due to the same reasons as the previous question?
Liu: Absolutely. Both sides of the Strait are still hashing out the
matter and yet the Ma administration is already pushing the Legislative Yuan to
pass draft bills paving way for the establishment of cross-strait offices.
That he is trying to rush the legislation through the Legislative Yuan before
the end of his term is clear evidence that he treats the issue as a personal
accomplishment.
It is clear that the Chinese Communist Party would be more sensitive on the
issue of national sovereignty, but it has not entirely swept the issue from the
table. It shows some flexibility on many issues, but if the [Ma] government
cannot even guarantee its people¡¦s safety, or at least give them a sense of
being safe, then it should not set up offices in China.
The biggest issue China-based Taiwanese businesspeople have is their personal
safety, with the added insecurity that their government cannot back them up
legally, especially as thousands of Taiwanese have been incarcerated [in China]
without trial.
If the government cannot keep its people safe, cannot have its representatives
reassure people and defend them using the law, it should not set up offices in
China, because they would be essentially useless.
Boiling it down, the essential problem with the policy [on representative
offices] is that it is driven by Ma¡¦s selfishness. He is willing to sacrifice
the rights of Taiwanese just to ensure his accomplishments. Worse, he feels he
is entitled to the results of such sacrifices.
LT: Even if both sides eventually reach a consensus on visitation rights, how
should we deal with concerns the Chinese office could gain as much influence as
the Liaison Office of the Central People¡¦s Government in the Hong Kong Special
Administrative Region?
Liu: [Generally speaking,] it is a positive step to establish embassies
or consulates in each other¡¦s sovereign territory, even if the governments
involved are nations at war.
The problem, in this case, lies in the fact that the [Ma] government does not
have the ability to govern its office.
There are going to be many after-effects if governments on both sides of the
Strait set up offices in each other¡¦s territory, and if the [Taiwanese
government] takes one wrong step, it is very possible for the Chinese office in
Taiwan to gain as much influence as the Liaison Office in Hong Kong.
LT: What can people do facing problems brought on by a president who seeks to
collect personal accomplishments?
Liu: If Ma is trying to claim his personal glorified place in history, it
is already too late, because many people have already helped define his
reputation ¡X which can be summed up with these words: ¡§Incompetence,
self-centered, dictatorial and tyrannical.¡¨
Ma imposes his will as being the ¡§will of the people¡¨ ¡X that is dictatorial. He
does not care for the suffering and hardships of the people and does not care
for the life and death of the people: That is the mark of a tyrant.
If it were only the opposition parties who are denouncing him, then that is par
for the course. The problem is that people who are condemning Ma are not just
the opposition parties. I grew up by nursing on the milk of the Chinese
Nationalist Party [KMT]. I have the ¡§royal bloodline¡¨ of the KMT and I am the
standard-bearer of the KMT¡¦s ¡§true blue flag¡¨ (¥¿ÂźX).
Ma can only be considered to have joined the KMT¡¦s power structure halfway
through and is counted only as a ¡§decorated banner¡¨ for the KMT¡¦s true blue
flag. If Ma wants to put labels on me, he would have a hard time making them
stick.
I have the legitimate right to voice my criticism as I¡¦ve observed four
presidents from close up. The person I dislike the most was [former president]
Chen Shui-bian (³¯¤ô«ó). However, the most incompetent is Ma. In many aspects, Ma¡¦s
abilities are far below Chen¡¦s.
Since all the problems our nation faces today stem from Ma, there are only two
ways to go about things.
One solution is to tolerate Ma for another three years. However, I¡¦m afraid many
people could not endure the situation for so long.
The second way is to recall the president. The problem we have now is the main
opposition party is not taking up the fight vigorously enough. Why is the
Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) so hesitant to initiate a recall campaign?
Because it is afraid of the KMT¡¦s punitive actions. The DPP has no guts to
jump-start a recall campaign, as it doesn¡¦t want to be wounded in the process.
LT: The DPP may be concerned that a motion to recall the president would not
be passed given the make-up of the legislature.
Liu: But the DPP can initiate recall motions against KMT lawmakers first.
If a serious effort can be made, it is now easier to get recall motions approved
against individual legislators, than in the past.
LT: To be successful, a vote to recall a lawmaker must attract half of all
eligible voters in a given constituency, and of the valid votes, those voting to
approve the recall motion must also be more than half of valid votes cast. In
other words, people who do not vote are considered as not approving the recall
motion. This is quite a high threshold to overcome.
Liu: Public grievance is at a very high level. If this is still not the
time to initiate a recall of Ma, then people will think the main opposition
party is not doing its job.
Ma¡¦s approval rate is below 20 percent ¡X this indicates that nearly everyone is
fed up. How did Ma vilify Chen in the past? Ma said that when a sitting
president is so unpopular as to enjoy only an 18 percent approval rate, that
person knows no shame if he does not resign. Now, Ma is at 13 percent, but he is
still quite content to remain president.
Ma doesn¡¦t care when his ¡§6-3-3¡¨ campaign pledge [annual GDP growth of 6
percent, annual per capita income of US$30,000 and an unemployment rate of less
than 3 percent] bounced.
He would not do so when asked to donate half of his salary [for failing to
deliver his 6-3-3 campaign pledge], because it would harm his personal
interests.
Since Ma came to office five years ago, the only people not affected are his
close associates, the high officials of his inner circles who together have
enjoyed prestige, affluence and political power. All of their salaries,
including Ma¡¦s, have not diminished at all.
If domestic affairs are handled badly, people might still endure it despite
reductions in real income.
However, if cross-strait relations are handled badly, it cuts off the livelihood
of all Taiwanese. If this comes to pass, no one can earn a living, or have any
means to survive.
We absolutely cannot tolerate this happening.
Translated by staff writers Jake Chung and Jason Pan
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